Professor Menelaos Apostolou of the University of Nicosia in Cyprus thought the Reddit thread provided serious scientific evidence relevant to the question of why men stay single. Mr. Tell-It-Like-It-Is No longer need a woman and my resources remain my own now. You sound like you don't know that, like it's totally objective. These guys have the bucks, but are as boring as freeze-dried hamburger and have the maturity of a 15-year-old. Restore male authority. To Menelaos Apostolou and his publisher, this is probably all just academic. They are victims though. I'm just a bit bored. Makes a guy feel he has NOTHING to offer, because as you said YOURSELF, men know (or at least think) that women are primarily looking for money, and they know they ain't got it if she's earning a lot more. The cause is feminism or female empowerment. For your academic amusement, let's assume my expectations were not realistic. Contrary to what your friends, family or society might say, if you're happy being single, that's awesome. Baby boomers (my parents gen) pretty much all divorced. 7. Get the help you need from a therapist near youâa FREE service from Psychology Today. The juice is not worth the squeeze! I would have liked a family, but frankly women are just not worth the effort anymore. But perhaps the motliest part of this crowd is the ever-growing group of 30-year-old single guys. But you probably can't handle that because it would rattle your ego and you'd get all flustered and insecure.) And you don't? Thatâs not a strength, itâs a flaw. Something else I noticed was completely ignored... parental divorce. Women gave up theirs long ago. Craig, great points. The only question left is how much oppression is needed. Types of guys to avoid dating. Men don't select women that way. It's almost funny you say that. If you are thinking that if too many people stayed single, the human species would be wiped out, thatâs okay. The millennial generation are victims and you can see it in every aspect of their lives. I dont have 1 single friend who parents remained married. Is this all you do? They are more beautiful and fun. I often tell the women that i really like too take some time off work so they can hang with me. I totally understand his choice. (Also, Apostolou never acknowledges the issues with Reddit that I described in the first section of this post.). So what difference does it make what you think? Little insight. Remember, again, your math is poor here. You just like to make up nonsense about differences and "unfairness", boo hoo, wah wah, cry me a river. And that's why men leave these comments. There are two problems with this: (1) They may not be the real reasons. Once men adapt, life will be far more rewarding and focused. Aren't you a man? What does it matter if a guy prefers jerking off at porn over having sex with women? They look for signs of youthful beauty because it represents fertility. Video games, porn, special interest chat rooms like reddit and on-demand media are a few of the reasons for low effort, lack of development and insecurity. You project this picture on too them of what you want them to be. Every girl on the list below I dated a few times over and ignored the warning signs that read “Full on Nuclear Meltdown Ahead: Beware.” But I was also the bozo most girls should have avoided (great piece by Meagan Prins), so I reaped some of what I sowed.However, I’m a firm believer … I understand guys would prefer it over a modern day relationship. No job, apparently. They just don't care about their earning potential in general. Nobody wants to waste their time helping a loser though. These educated women are just annoying in 5 different languages. How does it benefit you, just complaining and complaining? He talks about âthe negative emotional impactâ that singlehood can have. ), Another answer close to the top was: âbeing fat and shy surely isn't helping me out.â (âPoor looksâ ranked #1 in the authorâs coding of the reasons, and âintroversionâ ranked #6 out of the 43 reasons. Single life is preferable to slave life. So i hang here a bit in between working sessions. Because i have the free time to do it. Because i don't think modern Western women are worth their asking price. It is about their lives. Mostly empty house. She's already too old for my taste anyway. I consider it a bad deal for men. We are not told that this âscienceâ of single men comes from people such as âgrilled_tits,â âbrocksampsonspenis,â and âBrexitmypants.â And we are most certainly not told that single life in the 21st century is a respectable, meaningful, andâto many menâdesirable option. Home → Blog → Vesting Types – Single, Married, or Separate… Title to real property may be held in a variety of ways in the state of Washington. If you had experience you would know that. And by the time you get bored of them you realize you don't have the self-esteem, life experience, courage to interact successfully with girls who seem more confident than ever before. Actually, many insecure men will de-select (avoid) women who earn more, are smarter, have more degrees, etc. Just look up the statistics. But choosing to "stay single" — whether that means entering a committed but unwed partnership eventually, or swiping left on Tinder for … But i could do it. I would remind her that the wife submits to her husband. I consider that trait to be a virtue and would not marry one who is not. Sometimes, itâs nice to escape harsh realities – if only for a moment (and whom better to do that with than the one you love?). meaning he will prioritize you when it counts and go the extra mile to make sure both of your needs are being met. At least for the moment, they are not trying to become unsingle. Problem is, they never learned that life isn't easy and you need to get out there and pound dirt to build character and make progress. And another couple hours in the gym. They can only compliment you at best. Facebook image: Nejron Photo/Shutterstock. Hereâs a quick guide: When a friend mentions âthat woman at the bank,â sheâs probably older than you; when that same friend refers to âthis guy at work,â the dudeâs likely the same age or younger. So now i have more time and money to do other things i like. Every fool willing to pay the insane amounts of money can get higher education. Did the results really show that men generally do not want to be single? Apostolou mentioned all those other factors in his summary; he omitted the more important factor of a lack of interest in relationships. The 7 Types of Men You Should Think Twice Before Dating. They are just available alternatives. If some people wouldn't try to convince me about their wife's amazing high earning job over and over again. The answer he expected to find came from his evolutionary perspective: In the past, marriages were arranged, so men did not have to have any social skills to have a mate. And today's offer to men is just not sufficient enough for many young men. But Apostolouâs approach to answering the question of why men stay single is not a good one. I appreciate the feedback, but I find this to be a bizarre overly sensitive concern. Mr. I have given up video games completely, but I feel like the damage is done. However, since women have devolved into fat disgusting, wearing sweaty yoga pants and loudly farting in public heathens who demand equality right up until the check comes but then a man should pay for everything just for their company...? If these guys have a good experience. In the abstract (summary) of his article, which for many scholars and laypersons is the only part they will ever read, Apostolou writes, âAmong the most frequent reasons that men indicated for being single included poor flirting skills, low self-confidence, poor looks, shyness, low effort, and bad experiences from previous relationships.â. Stop welfare. The study found that plenty of men want to be single. More than a half-century of research on social influence demonstrates that people can be influenced even by very subtle psychological dynamics. A good ass spanking would give her some clarity on the issue. Experience leading me the opposite direction. Women select men on earning potential. One of them a 8 bed, 8 bath with a swimming pool, two hottub's, 4 car garage looking out on a beautiful palm beach in South East Asia. 1. Every country that adopted feminism it's the same. when things seem to be falling apart or when you simply want to enjoy his company. In turn, you canât help but want to be there for him too because of his ready-and-willingness to âshow upââwhen things seem to be falling apart or when you simply want to enjoy his company. Unless you're gonna find me a woman who roughly equal in quality to me as a person there's no reason for me to be particularly ambitious or want to "succeed" in this society.=, as I have no stake in it and will not have any stake in it until I have my own wife and children. Weird omission from his fantasy world. He doesnât have anything to say about the meaningfulness of the work or the passions they pursue. Itâll be refreshing to find someone who can be highly communicative about his feelings rather than keep you guessing. Wow, you seriously don't have much to say. He did not mention the #4 reason, ânot interested in relationshipsâ and he did not mention the #17 reason, âenjoying being single.â The author found that plenty of men are single because they want to be. Could there be a woman for me? For one thing, your typical 20-yo model doesn't have the sexual imagination, sexual acceptance of herself, ability to have orgasms, knowing what she wants in bed, than a sexually experienced 35-yo who, if she's super fit, is every bit as good looking as a 20-yo. Nor take care of children. I think most non-perverted people can understand what I'm saying. Girls, if he doesn't get check ups, doesn't floss, and avoids doctors you'll be dating a ticking time bomb with no teeth, and worse, he's the type who won't get Viagra or Cialis when the day comes. Total claptrap. I don't think your expectations about women are realistic. Good for him. He opened with a one-paragraph summary of the 43 reasons why men are single. LOL. If you want to save western civilisation the solution is simple. Generally in polling, you need only a sample size of about several thousand to have a likely accuracy within about 2%, regardless of the size of the population. They just learned some trick's that might or might not be useful in the job market. Many times in psychological testing the same question can be asked in different ways to see what a person's more "true" or honest answer is based on how close these answers come to each other. Too many men ending up in their parents' basement, unable to find a good job, and frankly just too lazy to find any job, playing video games, and doing porn instead of dating, which isn't that easy to do when you're living at home. Learning and preserving the distinct language, history, traditions, food of each country is of enormous importance. But the same go's for guys getting satisfaction from other sources. They often had so many sexual partners that they cant form a bond with a man anymore. Single women at weddings kill it in the guy department. Another category is âdifferent priorities,â meaning that the men cared more about other goals such as establishing their career or getting good grades. The solution in the old days was to kick these guys out on the street or send them into the military when they showed the total lack of ambition these guys do. Maybe they can learn from the mistakes that were made. Until then i have to make due. The recent study of why men stay single is massively flawed. But he wonât just be faithful to you, heâll be faithful to the relationship as a wholeâmeaning he will prioritize you when it counts and go the extra mile to make sure both of your needs are being met. What does it matter? Whenever a country adopts feminism it's marriage and birthrate plummet. Postal service clerks (74%) and … Reliable A guy who is always on top of your get-togethers, blocks off time to spend with … P.S. The NY Post has a recent article refuting that there is anything wrong or sexist with this common parlance. Few social skills and few life skills, and haven't really been challenged. Men who stay unmarried make anywhere from 10 to 40 percent less than married men. And if she's old enough to be out of college. But sometimes the cause of things, including staying single, is not personal, itâs situational. Sometimes, itâs nice to escape harsh realities – if only for a moment (and whom better to do that with than the one you love? Biggest mistake ever made by men. These educated women are often old. But really, is it worth constantly being tortured by a "moden woman" to get laid 1 or 2 times a month once the honeymoon period is over? I have seen that in action, personally. You obviously don't have anything you consider a "10" anywhere in your sight at the moment. I don't feel they make my life better. Instead of seeing them for what they really are. Some women don't want children. Out of 7.4 billion people in the world, this really isn't representative, as is the case with most empirical studies. And it has nothing to do with the hatred expressed toward men in many cultures? The only issue is that you need to make sure you're sampling randomly within the population if you're trying to speak for the whole population as a group. Divorce laws and family courts are horribly bias against men. I really can't think of any men with lots of sexual experiences and good relationships who'd say that. Many first world countries are suffering historically low birthrates and extremely high divorce rates. I'm not settling down because of feminist laws. We donât know who they are, or whether they are in any way a representative sample of single men. So men will troll them. This chat right here feels like socialization, but it's fake. You're making up the part about "old" here. In my country Iraq where I’m originally from. From all the women in the world, they offer the least amount of value. But he wonât just be faithful to you, heâll be faithful to the relationship as a whole. Don't want to be greedy. ...we canât even know that everyone posting on the Reddit thread was actually single â or actually a man, for that matter. This being intimidated thing is just what old career women tell themselves. (And there are even women who earn more money than you, but would still like to be with you. Don't want to get trouble with the people next door. Even in the best online forums, free of misogyny or singlism or any other bigotry, it is impossible for anyone but the very first person to participate without seeing what others are thinking. It's very simple. Mr. Dreamy-yet-Grounded You've posted the same thing about 100 times in this forum. Put on your big boy pants and stop pouting. They are mostly holding me back. There is no potential here to make a real friend or to meet a girl. Men are not intimidated by women who outearn them. No one stopping me from playing video games all day. The author fails to acknowledge the limitation that some of these respondents may not even be serious. And feminist influence on women. Their parents and the government through disgusting subsidies pushed this generation into taking out massive amounts of loans to avoid having to pound dirt. Mr. Leave immediately? We all - most of us, anyway - are looking for our "person" to love and to be with all the time for a long time, or maybe even forever. The importance of me using the phrase girl is to indicate that I'm speaking about females from my generation. Two real life forever alone examples are scientists Nicola Tesla and Isaac Newton who died virgins. From hipsters to douchebags, here are 11 types of single men in Chicago that nearly every woman will date at least once (and hopefully only once) in her lifetime. That wasn't the discussion -- is your memory that short? So that they feel better about themselves. And so they end up whining and complaining that everything is "too hard to do" and how they're "victims". It's about giving some counter weight to the overrepresented feminist and traditional dogma. It's that the reddit participants are all self-selected, NOT RANDOM at all. I don't settle down. Because that's an other factor. Would you find it odd if I referred to you as a boy? But sound really echoes here at the moment. If singlehood is menâs own fault, then they need to deal with their issuesâand thatâs just what Apostolou suggests in the last paragraph of his article. In fact, you should totally avoid them like a plague. Because i have always been the popular social guy who was totally fearless. All women aren't exactly alike, you know. I live in a world where you earn respect, you earn promotions, you earn rewards... somehow women live in this other world, where they believe that they deserve everything mearly because they shook their tits in your face. In fact, all you do is complain about the low "standards" of women, and then you complain that they have standards that are as utterly ridiculous as yours? And from their point of view, it is difficult. As a social scientist, I am embarrassed that Evolutionary Psychological Science published the study. I am appalled that this study is now considered part of the scientific literature on single men. And they make insane demands. Just a few months and i'll be in Asia permanently. She's already too old for my taste anyway. They are the first generation in America to be worse off than their parents generation. Most my stuff is already gone. That's too obvious a fake-out argument. Also with a selection of items, having not just grown up with brothers but also having male close friends that stayed single for none of the reasons listed, if they were part of this, they would basically have to not be honest and choose something not close to why they were the way they were. You're repeating yourself over and over again. In a trailer for her…. Youâre bald. We just canât know from this Reddit thread whether the men were telling us what they really did think about why they were single, or whether they were just trying to make a particular impression. For example, citing his own study of penis size, he argues that penis size did not matter in pre-industrial societies where men did not get to choose their mates. A guy who is always on top of your get-togethers, blocks off time to spend with you and remembers important dates that may slip your mind is the type of guy you need in your life. They aren't desperate to find a man to spend their time with and have the luxury of options on their side. I will just substitute one distraction for another. If you are over 14 years old it might be best to refer to females that you might want to date as women, not girls. Every time one of those women had a partner, it was a man who had a female partner. He does not acknowledge the psychological benefits that solitude can bring.     [The author also takes penis size very, very seriously. Time i would otherwise spend on the wife and children. If you like being single you can stop reading.â, âThis thread is Reddit at it's finest.â [sic], âI just don't want to date somebody that still gives a shit how many likes their duckface selfie gets and thinks they're hot shit for drinking infinite starbucks.â, âSome bitch "claimed" my free hugs shirt and you can't get other bitches without no free hugs.â, âOur tinder is a shit show filled with single moms wearing a camo hoodie.â. You donât know how to flirt. I live in a progressive hot spot in Europe. Unemployed trust fund kid. But here the attractive 20 yo have had half an army already. His spontaneity and talks about his dreams and ideals will keep the relationship fun and fascinating while his common sense will keep his feet on the ground. Good luck! Feminism is only correlated with wealthy western countries. At a lower price, and without the risks. The authorâs view of single men is harsh and unsupported by other studies of singles. Why? And expecting a woman to complete you will end in disaster. The more i understand women the less i value them. These researchers are not interested in the true reason. They focus exclusively on men and the symptoms of the problem. No, it's not just luck or good timing. Below are the eight types of women guys will always stay away from. It is a common misunderstanding. Reliable can always be counted on when it matters most. Take women's right to vote away. Nope, I have it from YOUNG PROFESSIONAL WOMEN earning a lot that it rattles men that she is younger and beautiful AND ourearning him. Why would a high value man go for the career woman pushing 40 with her frozen eggs? Like giving women equal rights. By using our site you agree to our cookies and privacy policy along with those of our partners like Google Ads etc. Does that mean sports are now the cause? Though she has noble intentions (sometimes), constantly telling her man his way is the wrong way isn’t so much noble as it is infuriatingly annoying. Even if the men really were reporting the reasons they honestly thought they were single, and even if the answers they gave on Reddit are exactly the same as the answers they would have given alone in a room without being able to see what anyone else said first, we still canât say â as Apostolou does â that these are the real reasons why men are single. They just don't care about their earning potential in general. I wouldn't have to repeat myself over and over again. A woman over 25 can't be a 10? So i don't settle down. What Marcus says is actually somewhat on the mark, and has been the subject of many articles, including the Wall Street Journal a few years ago. He also mentioned a variety of other factors, including the one that ranked #42, dead last except for a miscellaneous category. Many people choose to stay single in order to go back to school, finish their degree, start an internship, or devote more time to their career. You writing the article are a down right fool and this study is utter bullshit. Men over 50 aren’t old dogs, but they can be harder to change. Circa 2014, there are an unprecedented number of single, educated men in their thirties—the medium age for a first marriage is as high as 32 in … Social attitudes align with orthodox muslim immigrants. Why is he being shamed for it? In fact, one of the attractions for insecure men about young women is that they feel there is less chance that they will be upstaged in bed by someone with more experience. He also mentioned the 40th most-popular reason. Do We Need Lifelong Love to Achieve Happiness? Outlaw female education. I'll settle for 10 oke? I think my biggest difficulties lie in that I grew up in the 70's when women still wore dresses, actually tried to act like a lady, and men treated them with respect. So yes, not much entertainment here. You donât want a guy who has his head in the clouds completely, but you also donât want someone who takes himself too seriously. And how does that differ for men?
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